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I have not shot it since. I am tooling up for .308 at the moment.
New Bar MK3 DBM.
Jimii was good this year so Santa was better.

As soon as it warms up a little I will take it out again. I bought a Lead Sled.

Jim

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Well, someone had to be the crash test dummy. "Fred" suggested I bed it with epoxy, which I did. Time will tell. I'll take it out in a few weeks and put a bunch more through it and see how it goes. (Need lead sled, says my shoulder) "Fred" made it so the posts that are the thread...

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Just an update.
I loaded a bunch made by GRUMPA.
I shot 18 of them last weekend, along with a bunch of my reloads.
The GRUMPA loads, which I did not run through my sizing die, had zero primers back out.
I will try and match the shoulder to those cases made by GRUMPA.

Jim

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Sorry I should have mentioned that, it is a .32.

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Yes, off a bench, but next time I will be using a Lead Sled. All the bullets were Speer 170s. All primers were WLRs. Some had 31.5 gns. of 3031, the GRUMPA cases had 31.8 gns. COAL of 2.53. Mixed cases, but some (18 of them) were new made by GRUMPA that I bought over a year ago. None of his cases ha...

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Target # 3 at 50 yards trying my hardest. 1.43" Without that flyer it would have been .68". I figure 4 is the right group size as that is all my magazine will hold. I don't know why. scoped 81 _ 3.jpg I then went directly to the 200 yards plates and missed 12 times at a 12"W X 18"...

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Target #2 again 50 Yards.
Middle group 2.43"
Top group and actually the last fired 3.18"

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Target # 1 50 Yards
First three shots at the bottom before the scope was dialed in aiming at the center. Nice close group though.
.93"
The lone hole is me walking the scope up.
Three in the center 1.68"
Four up top 1.805"

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Fellow member "Fred" here made this for me to try. I think it is going to work. Got the laser bore sighter out and tweaked it right in. I may undo everything and bed it in as suggested. Angle is weird but the scope is just forward of the ejection port. 81 mount_1.jpg 81 Mount _2.jpg

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Very helpful, thanks a bunch!

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I have a feeling when you do this and I post pictures, everyone will want one.

Jim

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When you say "bump the shoulder back" are you saying to not let the die go too far when resizing? I have seen this mentioned several times, and am not 100% sure what it means. This is the only bottle necked case I load for so I have no reference other than straight walled cases where I go ...

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My son and I had a great time last Thursday since the club just opened back up. When I got home I noticed the empties of some of my .32 Remingtons were backing out. There were plenty of threads in the forums about this. Is this just the nature of the semi auto beast? I couldn't take the recoil anymo...

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I ordered an out of production Weaver 4X scout scope and some rings. It may be a while before they arrive though.

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Excellent. I will work up some numbers next week.
I managed to find a Burris Fast Fire III. I will try that, but I don't think it will be much better.

Thanks
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Fred, Would you be willing to make a longer one for mounting a scout type scope? I didn't get a red dot for mine yet. Those Burris Fastfire III's seem to be out of stock everywhere. My son and I took the 81 out yesterday. My son put his first three in the bullseye (3" x 2") at 50 yds with ...

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I never saw the need or understood why people bought turret presses.
I do now.

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I read somewhere that you were not supposed to flare a rifle case mouth like a pistol case. I am not flaring mine at all. Bullets are going in without issue. I just don't know if they are snug enough that they don't move under recoil. I would really like to seat on one step and crimp in another. I s...

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Ken,

I have the Redding dies.
Two die set.
Loading so far is OK just slower than I am used to.
I should set this up on my Dillon but I would have to resize/deprime/tumble first.
Once that is done, the single stage isn't that hard anyway.

Jim

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Fred,

Check your PMs.
I would like one if you have any left.

Jim

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I am going to load a few more for my Model 81 since I have a little time. A made a few last night and ordered 150 cases from Grafs. My big question is I have never seen crimp specs. When I full length resize it already measures about what the factory Remingtons I have measure. There is no noticeable...

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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/571582929

$70 is a little much.
But it is an option.

Another one.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/569890376

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FWIW I paid $600 for mine in the expensive northeast 2-3 years ago, and mine is pretty unmolested, except for a Williams tang sight.
Great bluing and wood.

It also came with 90 rounds of ammo, but I have since learned how to make it.

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I finally fired some of my own reloads. None cracked. About a 4.5" group with the flyer, 3" without it.
Ignore anything below the center horizontal line. Four were the reloads, four were the Cabelas obsolete line. Open sights. Williams peep.

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I finally got around to reloading a few.
Four look OK, but two I kind of mushed the shoulder.

I annealed 22 cases from one batch.

Roll or taper crimp? That is the big question.
I assume these head space like any auto, on the mouth, so taper crimp?

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They are Starline .38-55 cases. Some of the ammo I purchased with my rifle was .38-55 Win cases. I have a Lee set of case holders. They fit in #1 (38/357 shell holder) but not in #19 which is the correct case holder. Comparing them to some of my other cases, they are .003 larger in diameter, and .00...

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Did any of you guys try to load these yet?
Mine came yesterday, and the first thing I did was attempt to put it in the shell holder (#19).
They won't go in.
I didn't try my Dillon yet.

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You obviously made the right decision.
It looks great!

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I ordered the $25 center. I just received an email response (I emailed them first) from Grizzly saying it won't fit. I sure wish they had responded in less than a week. The email said the tail stock is only .39" and they don't carry one that will fit. It should be here today so I will know for ...

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I will do some looking. I did re-size to .32 dimensions first. Possibly this (for a wood lathe though?)? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000DD5AE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1QUBNPD59DJYG&coliid=I21AYEOXPXOACZ http://www.grizzly.com/search?q=MT1 Way more choices here? Thanks aga...

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Live centers don't come on $400 lathes, at least I don't think they do?
It would spin, not spin, spin again, etc.
I will check around to see if one is available for my lathe.
If not, I will try the die method, although I am not sure my chuck is big enough to take a die, but I will see.

Thanks

Jim

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I have finally finished my first one. I don't think I will load it though. A few questions. 1st, How do I keep the tail stock from eating up the primer pocket? 32rem_2.jpg 2nd, I am guessing I need to reverse the chuck jaws? See the indent on the neck. The case was virtually in there all winter. 32r...

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It is finally warm enough to work in the garage. I love winter. I managed to get one 30-30 shell to spin without wobbling. OK, I have a question. How do you keep the tail stock from chewing up the primer pocket? I made a pretty decent tool for the extractor groove. It could be better. I used a purch...

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I just finished it a week ago.
There was a lot that I just didn't know.
A very interesting read.

Funny how big of a collector he is/was but he doesn't recommend shooting them.
That is just crazy talk.

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At this point it just has the be the link/action spring follower/action spring?
The stock is off now?
It doesn't look like a rusty mess, but inside the action spring tube, one never knows.

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FWIW, I paid $600 for a very similar one in .32 Remington recently. (made in 1938)
Mine has the Williams instead of the Redfield. Mine is also missing the rear sight.
Mine came with 90 rounds loaded, and 10 empties.
My stock is in better shape, metal about the same.

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You will be learning more than reloading, you will be making ammo almost from scratch.
I am learning right now.

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Skier, you betcha! Where is your originating point.
I am in CT. I have done Mt. Snow in 2 1/4 hours. Skied from first to last chair.
Then couldn't walk once I made it home.

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See the bottom of this post.

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I bought a Lee single stage just for the .32 Rem.
My Dillon 550 is a little much, until the brass is made.

Jim

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You have to Choose File (likely it needs to be re-sized).
I use Microsoft Office Picture Manager. I re-size to Web Large.
Then click Add the file.

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This site is awesome.
Pics are from curdog.
This is the kind of info an inexperienced one like myself needs.

I did make a similar holder.

Jim

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Curdog,

Define "fine" ?
100 Grit?

Anyone have pictures of the tool you use to cut the extractor groove?

Thanks

Jim

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First thing I did was make a shell holder. Basically a .320 brass rod. It fits fairly snug in a re-sized 30-30 case. Then I re-sized 5 cases and chucked them up in the lathe. They wobble quite a bit. Is it just going to be trial and error in getting them in the chuck centered, or something different...

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Here is what I plan on doing. I am going to make a brass piece to hold the shells. Step 1 Full length re-size/deprime cleaned 30-30 cases to .32 Remington. Step 2 Chuck them up in lathe and make appropriate cuts. Step 3 Clean/tumble again. Step 4 Anneal the necks Step 5 Load them Step 5 Shoot. Is th...

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I think that is pretty close to what it is worth. I paid $600 for mine is similar condition in .32. I got 90 round of ammo, but yours isn't in an obsolete caliber, and that sight is a $150 upgrade. I think you did OK. Besides, it is only money. I am confident you will make more. I am also confident ...

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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =461844035

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =461659851

This guy is a big collector of 8's and 81's.
If I was you I would mark him in gunbroker as a favorite seller.
The .30 ammo was re-listed because no one bid.

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Fred,

Thanks for the warning. Before I do anything, I have a neighbor who is a retired chemist.
I will run it by him for safety. If he says change something, I will change it.
I will certainly clean everything before trying this.

Jim

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Check it out. Does potassium nitrate expand when it melts?

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