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Good catch! Probably 1912 M8 receiver with M81 trigger housing.

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There were several errors in the placards related to Bonnie and Clyde history when I went to the Waco "Texas Rangers Museum" in 2016. For example, there was a Winchester Model 1910 .401 rifle (Cat. No. 2030) that said "This Winchester .401 caliber shotgun [sic] was taken from Ray Hami...

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Hmmm.... the extra screw is on the butt end of the tang. On straight stocks the stock screw is near the end of the trigger housing tang. On curved Model 8 tangs for round or half-knob stocks, the stock screw is farther up. Yours has screws in both of those positions. Have you had the stock off to se...

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Can you post a picture of the 3-screw tang?

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Well.... after reading all the other posts on wood buffers in .25-35 Rem guns, I have decided that it was definitely a factory installation. Why? We may and probably will never know. I believe that the original buffer in my gun and these others was made from oak. But since I was fishing for solution...

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WOW! Another Frankengun to add to my collection! I'm going to BIN!

I wonder how much they want for the pool table.. and what the shipping would be.

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Yesterday, I tried my new wood buffer that I made from a 7/8" wood dowel rod. I had also polished the chamber with a large bronze bore brush with a little Flitz paste on a patch using a drill motor. Fired 10 rounds with no problems. Gun functioned perfectly.

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I've made a new wood buffer from a 7/8" wooden dowel rod and drilled it out with a 9/16" spade bit. I also polished the chamber and will try to fire the gun again before trying the spring. If it functions with the new wood buffer, I might just leave it be.

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I'm glad you got it apart. These .25 Rem and .25-35 Rem guns are proving to be a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. However, I think that we have enough evidence to prove that the guns did at one time come with a wood buffer instead of a spring, even if Henwood and other authorities can...

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Just fired some Grafs .25 Rem brass (2nd loading). Actually, I only fired one and notice two splits on the neck at the shoulder. I immediately stopped. I pulled the bullets and powder from 10 rounds and reloaded in some new Grafs unfired brass that I had annealed. I shot these loads in the same gun ...

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Do you have a Rem 8/81 specific tool that you are using to get the barrel bushing nut out of the shroud? Instead of WD-40 or regular lubricating oils, try some Liquid Wrench, Kroil, or other penetrating oil.

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Thanks Rifleman!

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I say I'm looking for a .25 Rem buffer spring AND washer(s) because in my only other .25 Rem Model 8, there was a weak buffer spring (I could compress it with my fingers, unlike any other 8/81 caliber spring) AND two solid "spacer" washers on the receiver end of the buffer spring. None of ...

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Thanks guys. Yes... I will continue to look for the unicorn (.25 Rem buffer spring and washer). Hopefully someone on this forum has a spare for sale. In the meantime, I will polish the chamber..... and then try to make a replacement wood buffer if I can get access to a lathe.

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I see what you mean, but the picture is a bit deceiving. This is the same order that they came out of the shroud. The wooden plug looks deformed on the washer side in the picture. However, the split washer fits perfectly on the end of the wood plug and both are the same OD as the shroud ID. I made s...

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I badly need a .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer(s) because this is what I found in my .25-35 Rem barrel assembly. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/yy89/cantgrowup/20210511_130836_resized.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds WILLING TO PAY $150 FOR THE SPRING AND WASHER(S). I ca...

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Fired 10 rounds in my .25-35 Rem for first time this week (the one I discussed with the wooden "buffer" instead of a conventional steel buffer spring). I fired one round at a time for function testing and for each of the first five rounds, the barrel would remain in the full recoil positio...

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I am looking for a standard front bead-type sight for my 1909 Model 8. Ideally I'd like the Remington early type with the set screw, but would settle for one without the set screw..... or a Lyman, Marbles, or King aftermarket bead front sight. Send email to cantgrowup@hotmail.com
Thanks

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Well.... here's a May 2021 posting for this old thread. My "new" .25-35 also has a wood "buffer" and a split washer that looks exactly like ones posted earlier My rifle SN is 165xx and was made in 1909. The rifle is in good shape otherwise. What I initially thought was a "sh...

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I badly need a .25 Rem buffer spring and spacer washer(s) because this is what I found in my .25-35 Rem barrel assembly. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/yy89/cantgrowup/20210511_130836_resized.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds Money is no object! ;) I can also throw in one of my f...

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Oops! Yep... 165xx.

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Picked this ".25-35 Rem" marked Model 8 up on GB last week (SN 195xx) which dates to 1909. Something that looks odd is a small oval cut-out in the trigger guard immediately below the trigger. Any thoughts? https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/yy89/cantgrowup/20210510_134631_resized.jpg?w...

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I use a Bench Source Ultimate Annealing machine to anneal my brass, and Templaq paints to determine necessary times.

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Did anybody on our forum buy this Texas Ranger rifle?

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Just bought a Model 8 on GB with SN 16xxx (seller did not narrow it down to third digit). What year would that be? I'm away from home and don't have access to my Henwood book. Thanks.

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Are these just rhetorical questions..... or do you have such a creature? If so, let's see some pics!

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Next batch of 25 tools is ready. Have 11 tools left from this batch unspoken for.

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Hamer most likely did not have any form of BAR at the ambush. He used a Rem 8 in an unspecified caliber. Hinton was the only LEO with a BAR, which he borrowed from the Texas National Guard, I believe.

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Charles,

I have barrel shroud take-down tools for sale. Check the For Sale section of this forum.

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Oops! My mistake!

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What is your rifle's serial number? From the pic it looks like 7322, which would be 1907. Why do you say yours was made in 1928?

Your rifle's stock also has the raised cheeks which only on the early guns before 1919.

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The book also says that your "round bottom" pistol grip (also called "round knob" grip) was one of the least common Model 8's.

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The 8 and 81 rifles did not come with sling mounts. Starting in 1920, the barrel shroud had a threaded hole and screw where one can be mounted. The buttstock had no swivel mounting provided, except on the metal buttplates with the bottom tang some owners would replace the buttplate screw in the bott...

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According to Henwood's book "The Great Remington 8 and Model 81 Autoloading Rifles", your rifle was made in 1907 (If I'm correct reading your serial number as 7322) and is a Model 8. The EUU3 code is odd in that it has an extra U. EU3 would mean a factory repair in Oct 1927. I'm not sure w...

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Intellivore, If you look at the fourth pic in the first group of pics in my original post, you will see where a gunsmith welded a second angled stock bolt hole on top of the original stock bolt hole upper tang of the Model 8 receiver. This allowed the curved tang of the Model 81 to be fitted to the ...

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Well... the Frankengun 8/81 .250 Savage shoots okay. Here's a six-shot group at 50-yds using factory Remington Core-Lokt 100 gr loads. I shot a total of 20 and had two stove-pipe jams of empty cases, so maybe the action isn't cycling hard enough with this load. I will measure the twist rate later to...

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Yes Rifleman, there are two dovetail slots on the barrel (the rear has been filled). Last night, I loaded one of my factory .250-3000 cartridges in the magazine box, chambered it, and ejected it. Later this week, I will go shoot it. I measured the barrels just in front of the barrel extension and at...

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I've had problems with Graf's .32 and .30 Rem brass splitting necks on first and second loads. At a dollar a case, I now anneal all Grafs brass before loading the first time and will re-anneal after every other loading.

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Well.... the factory Remington 100gr Core-Lokt ammo is on its way. I'll let you guys know if and how the gun functions. Fingers crossed!

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I notice that the buffer spring is the stronger style, but has been cut down by the gunsmith to a shorter length. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/yy89/cantgrowup/20210318_161353_resized.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds I'm beginning to realize that this guy really put a lot of th...

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If you look closely on all 8/81s, you'll see the pins. Some are still hidden better by the bluing... and others with more wear are more visible. I have a Model 8 with three separate factory repair stamps. I'll bet that one of the trips back to the factory was to replace that bolt lock activation ram...

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I've disassembled the bolt assembly and noticed something different from my other 8s and 81s bolt carriers. The "bolt lock pin" that holds the "bolt lock" lever does not have a hole drilled all the way through the bolt carrier. There is only a hole at the top of the carrier... an...

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Nope... It's not detachable. However, a very interesting fact is that when I pulled the mag box out of the trigger housing, a small semi-circular "shim" fell out in my hand. I determined that this was being used as a spacer in the recessed front of the trigger guard so that the mag box wou...

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Well... I bought a Model 8/81 "Frankengun" in what turns out to be 250 Savage. It was marked "250REM" on the visible part of the barrel extension, but after buying it and taking it down, it shows "250REM. 3000". It has a 1913 Model 8 receiver (SN 318xx) but with a Model...

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I took a brand new batch of Grafs .32 Rem brass and annealed them. Then I loaded 20 of them with the same loads that had split the neck/shoulders on the previous batch. Of these, today I shot 10 and none experienced split necks or shoulders. My lesson learned is that I will anneal ALL Grafs brass fr...

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This superb animation was apparently hiding in plain sight, buried deep inside an hour-long video from two WWI service weapon aficionados about how Model 8's were never used by ground troops in the Great War ....and only sparingly by some biplane aircrews.

cantgrowup

That is an excellent animation of the Model 8/81 long recoil action! Thanks.

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The little flat springs on the barrel lock and on the magazine indicator are both easily removed with a push punch. They are not crimped into place, and yours could have easily fallen out if the slot was looser than normal. Yes, a magnetic pan is an essential for working on Model 8/81s ! Even though...

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I make a barrel take-down tool. Check out my post below in "For Sale or Trade".

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Thanks Cam. I just did a search (should have done that first, I guess) and sure enough, there was a 2019 thread on split necks on Graf .30 Rem brass..... started by me! :o I load so many calibers that I had totally forgotten about that. But being my second issue with Model 8/81 cartridges, I guess t...

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